finney, and also republican strategist hogan gidley, former communications director for rick santor santorum's presidential campaign. karen, start with you, the full-court press of obama voters ramping up to fiscal cliff talks, out with a new report today showing the impact, losing middle class tax cuts and even the thought of it could have on holiday shopping and spending. combine that with the new poll showing the majority of americans, 45%, would blame the gop and congress and not the president if these fiscal cliff talks fail. are we seeing a white house not willing to lose this pr war no matter the outcome of the talks? >> i think you're seeing a gop that has yet to accept the election results, sort of negotiating with themselves about what they will and won't accept without acknowledging the polls you just cited and the other thing is a strong majority actually also wants a deal. they want a compromise, a balanced compromise. as the republicans are negotiating with themselves over here, the administration and the rest of america is kind of in another place and i think the administration